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© Wolfgang Kohrn - Last updated on September 15th 2013
More bits from Matt LaFond on the Jim Philion (2013 announced by Matt as one of the ex Bob Johnson racecars).
+++Not confirmed by Jim Philion himself+++
Read the full story here
April 1st, 2013
EX-John HALL T/A racer gets hot again
Peter Hallford updated us about the ex-John Hall car. It just finished its first racing appearance at the Thruxton Revival Easter event in the UK.
Picture courtesy Wessex Car club
March 27th, 2013
To each his own!
The Mustang collection 2013
Something doesn't feel right here. Ford patched Parnelli Jones and Vaughn Gittin together in a graphics for the 2013 Mustang Collection roadshow ...on display for the first time at the 50th Anniversary merchandising launch in New York this week.
Parnelli Jones was invited to
appear...but did not join the party. Nobody gave an explanation, why he did not
join. Maybe he had a book signing date elsewhere, but then again..no one seemed
to know why he let this 50th launch date go.
Other artwork shown at the NYAS 50th launch worked much better, but this one seems to be a bit "off".
What's wrong? My personal opinion is that although the message may have been clear to the artist to create a bridge from the past to the future, it becomes indeed sort of a patchwork that does not really fit together.
While it may be fun for some to see PJ in a Mustang GTR or Vaughn Gittin performing in a 1970 racer (well, that thought hurts already)...they should not be linked that way in my view.
Ford seems to try to get past and presence of the Mustang brand image together for the 50th, but it is a difficult task. This artwork shows, it can go wrong. What do you think? Post your opinion on the boss302.com forum in the Transam Section, if you like. I'll post the pic there.
March 26th, 2013
Any shot you may
have in your private photobox can solve a bit of mystery in the history of these T/A cars. Thanks to Phil Murphy we got this one.
March 22nd, 2013 April 3rd.,
The 67/68 notchbacks keep us
What the experts noticed so far, is the turn signal hood as well as the main hoop leaning back. "That to me says it had a 4-point roll bar at one point and later a full cage added. The lean back is due to the main hoop tubes on 4-point bars bolting to the rear floor pan rather than the upper section under the seat area."
Update April 3rd: The suspension turned out upon closer inspection of detailed shots as some Kar Kraft parts, which makes this Find very interesting. Quick release brake pad retainers and curved veins in the discs plus the Watts linkage brackets appear real.
Update May 18th: A meeting will take place in early June with a seller of parts of this car to unearth the full story. Stay tuned.
March 22nd, 2013
Something related to Parnelli Jones at the New York Auto Show! NOSHOW!
When former TransAm race driver Parnelli
Jones is called to the action, there must be a special car again in the Mustang
Collection on display at the New York Auto Show 2013 this week. But there
wasn't, PJ did not appear and no explanation was given.
We speculated a lot. My best guess was -
Saleen is back on track and PJ is there as well. Both worked already together
one time and created a special PJ Editon Mustang in 2005 and what would be the logical output of such a
Especially since there will be no official Boss 302 from Ford in 2014.
Ok. this maybe the crux...PJ did not appear, maybe an indication they have indeed something in the pipeline as a Saleen SE?
I maybe wrong as there is an alternative...anyway we'll follow it.
March 22nd, 2013|
Jim Gerdon is a long-time designer and artist.
His latest work isn't really new (2012), but still outstanding for T/A enthusiasts. The #17 Terlingua 1967 Mustang, driven by Jerry Titus could work well on a big wall...if it wasn't that small as a limited edition 9x18" piece of artwork for 30 bucks. So if you want one in bigger size, encourage Jim to get it done.
March 1st, revised March 5th.and
March 9th, March 22nd|
The 1967/1968 SA Notchback mystery continues
In digging for the VINs and their reference to the SAAC car# numbering, it paid off to get back to a few cars we had featured decades ago already. While at it I "stumbled" over a long term assumption and a not posed question.
Learning every day new Mustang history tidbits
it is wise to correct it.
It seems indeed that 7R01_164684 was assigned to car #8 based on the SA shipping papers. The car was registered as of January 1968 in Norway as a K-code and licenced. The rest of the story is still subject to further research. Yet there is no doubt it is the legit #16684.
7R01K164684 is still around and tagged on this car.
This SA notchback made its debut on ice and snow in February 1967 at the Brunnjøen race. After a second ice race it later turned up in several races of the swedish touring car championchip through the 1967season. Bo Ljungfeldt drove it for Ford Sweden , but had missed 3 races so he could not catch up again- but he won second place!.
He got it on the February 19th, 1967. Early SA shipping papers indicate it was #164684 that came to Sweden.
We are having a look into the cars history, tags and documentation. It got once hit by a BMW, when Tom Belso raced it in the 1968 season in Denmark and a fender and door were dented.
Ford Norway repaired the car, converted it to street trim and back from the Shelby to "Mustang style" and sold it...it went through several owners hands and is now in Bjørnar Djønnes hands.
We meanwhile reconfirmed a few things .
You need another birthday present for your
You may now pre-order David Toms new T/A racing book.
This book was for a longer time in the pipeline, we heard about it several times. I think from those commments, it will be book T/A enthusiasts need on their shelve.
So make sure you watch out for it. Right now
available on amazon.com for preorders. (to be released October 2013)
We received an update on the ex-Don Eichstadt and ex-Martin Birrane racecar that Mike Friedlander sold in 2001 to a collector. It appeared now in Tyler/Texas thanks to our contributor David McMillan.
Thanks to David for spotting this one an an indoor car show.
History logbook now updated here at
Dec. 10th., 2012 - update
Jan. 26th, 2013|
1966 Shelby #12 ex-McComb car for sale at the Kissimmee Mecum auction
Rick Davis offers this car out of his collection after an ownership of just about 9 months.
The auction took place on Sat, January 26th, 2013, 2.50pm
Sold for 400.000 Dollar.
Since regulations changed,
more and more 67/68 Mustangs are prepared for racing. This
is an outstanding example from American Muscle Car and Motorsports Services in
Bastian is the boss there and has built this car.
It showed up first at SPA in 2012 and then in Goodwood again.
As you see at Spa it blew a tire and had to be parked for a while.
We'll feature this Daytona 68 replica in our special section soon.
(16-18.August) saw some spectacular TransAm race cars reunion|
The 1967 Fred Sutherland Shelby Notchback #24 car reappeard and both Chris Liebenbergs/Ross Myers and Bill Ockerlunds blue door number 2 Shelby team cars joined the party.
Another one spotted was a 67
notchback with doornumber 21 from Cobra Automotive. We were wondering if
that is the former doornumber 65 car.
January/July 5th, 2012|
Incredible and truely unexpected...
to review these details in a documentation of the 67/68 T/A season
I for myself have always thought, the Shelby team at the racetracks was a performance driven group of maniacs and workaholics, but then somehow unorderly in their organisation.
Definitely not so.
The SA racing group properly documented each and every step for their race participations in a multiple page long movement schedule for all involved race team members, issued up front and monitored in every detail during each race. The detailing of car details including the VIN and its color, driver and the additional timing and meeting information allows a lot of insight. Planning was indeed professionally done.
The Unexpected Ponysite Editor (me:) as a rather independent runner of a website of and for enthusiasts - featuring all sorts of Mustang racecars - was pulled under the hood and given the trust of a first sneak preview ... and then that's why your Editor has finally decided to put this on our Newspage here - it is really unexpected new material, I'd never thought would be around..
We had already reported early about a group that was researching all kind of so far hidden documentation, getting in touch with genuine players, previous owners etc. to get signed testimonials, to shed light on a true mysterious season - the 67/68 Trans Am season and the real VIN story and color changes..that we could not really understand ourselves including a few owners of those cars. Matt LaFond, previous owner of the 1968 T/A #2 gets the credit for this report and it looks thoroughly researched and backed up with proofs from what we saw.
A cut-out of a sample page about the SA team at the Daytona 1968 race (Kar Kraft archives) included in a new 200 page report on the 1967/68 season, the prototype and including all race movements plus many more bits of history..
You would be surprised what these movement schedules are showing. So was I. The amount of details given in this report is really surprising and the VIN/Color changes explain a lot, why we could not properly sort out earlier what happened with the individual cars, the ongoing Ford ordered paint jobs and a real surprise that became evident in those presented papers. That actually two cars of the five 68 notchbacks were indeed altered 67s, but getting another prefix of 8F01D digits instead of their 7R01K former original prefix (why, how and where is explained in the report). These 2 cars were actually used at the Daytona race visible in that page above together with one 7R01K spare car. The research report continues after consulting known resources that the D indicates the Tunnel Port 302 engine. Not any street car got this digit, so you won't find it in standard documentation.
To make it clear: 2 of the 68 cars were converted 1967s.. And only 3 new cars were ordered from SA, 2 of them being used in the season and one being the back-up bare body car - todays Phil Jacobs car. Rumour has it though there was another Body in white. We are researching that one right now.
You may understand that I can not send copies of what we got to anyone nor will I. That's up to the sources. I got only few pages, but interesting enough, of the claimed 200 pages documentation for a short News piece and independent preview of what is shown.
The papers allow us to do at least some corrections on some of our misleading 67/68 T/A cars individual histories some time after it goes out to the related parties.
The starting point of this
ongoing study and
research was indeed to shed some brighter light on the early history of
the SA notchback prototype that had been questioned
and finally excluded from the registry after a long period of acceptance in
BME #4 soon ready to race|
Steve and Kinga Johns have accelerated their efforts to take the car on a track. We assume it is ready for Monterey 2012.
There are obviously still
enough mysteries out there, even in print. |
When we thought and read that the Don Pike car is the SA notchback protototype... it turns out, it is not. Don Pike build that car himself, says Chuck Cantwell.
The SA notchback prototype was indeed sold to Donald Peck and was raced later on by Ron Dykes/Steve Froines at Riverside T/A and by Don Peck at Laguna Seca and Daytona as well as a number of other SCCA and ARRC races. Stickers on his roll cage indicated that already.
The Don Pike car looks like this one on the right. Now comes the question: Of which origin is that one. Don mentions, he built (or prepped) it with his brother for racing.... though he was an employee of SA and had a Falcon from SA before. Stay tuned for the unexpected News again.
The Pike car at Riverside 66...but Donald Peck was also there with his car.
Ed Diamond and his door
number #5 lettered T/A Mustang
was a well-known name back then in the 1966 Trans Am season and he made his debut in that series at the 1966 Sebring race.
we found this Terlingua Mustang - probably made up - sales ad "Driven by a conservative magazine Editor" in the Sports Car Graphic July 1967.
We all know who this editor was and who put it in SCG himself.
Another piece of documentation ... and counting the days or weeks for a public coming out of another survivor...
December 3rd, 2011
When genuine racers meet, they can sort out pretty fast, who is talking nonsense and who is a smart guy.
That was the case when Richard "Dick" Guider attended for the first time the Arizona Sports Racing Association oldtimers luncheon this weekend.
They recognized him immediately and so did he - dozens of good old stories were exchanged with attendees SCCA National Champion B Production GT350 Don Robert, SCCA National Champion Cobra and Lotus Cortina driver Tex Guthrie and many more. No doubt he was one of the gang.
The highlight of the day was
however Dick Guiders visit to Jim Langes home to check out his mystery car, Jim
had bought early and raced in A/S and which turned later out to be a combination
of a 67 Shelby in front and a true race car with mystery history at ther rear
Richard Dick Guider, Don Roberts and Jim Lange sr.
After 2 hours of close
inspection, checking individual mods and changes on the rear 1/2 of Jims car,
Dick is sure, this portion of the car is a true survivor of his former SA
notchback that he bought and raced in A/S and Cal Club races.
Tom Yeager/Bob Johnson/Walt
Hane information added in 66 section. |
Although not a true SA notchback, it had lots of Shelby pieces inside and participated in the Mustang racing history more than any other.
Browsing more picture collections
from A-Sedan races - tracing down the history of the
missing Shelby Mustangs - Dave Petersen contributed these pictures of
a door number 17 lettered A/S racer and another bumper-equipped car with the
door number #18 at the same Riverside race.|
We will let you know soon more about the 2 notchbacks that Richard Dick Guider bought and raced at SCCA races.
Any further contribution is always appreciated.
The car with door number 17 is identified by Jeff Canon as his fathers car, earlier Peter Cordts car Shelby notchback #18. Riverside was Peters hometrack. It later was painted blue, probably at the end of 67. See 1967 Shelby Group 2 Notchback #18.
October 14th, 2011
Designer Melvin Betancourt made this unique Laguna Seca Boss 302
..and it will be raffled off for a good purpose. Painted at AAI factory in this yellow outfit, it will certainly gain a certain collector status in the future.
October 2nd, 2011|
BIW#4 becomes BME#4
The Unexpected Ponysite.de keeps to its roots when it questions common knowledge that has been transferred for decades. One of the better known terms is the ex-factory "Body in White" for the 4 body shells that made their way ex factory to Kar Kraft and Bud Moore. A more suitable term is Bud Moore Engineering vehicle.
As a logical step the Moore family has supported and guided the finishing of the last known Bud Moore Engineering Mustang #4, today owned by Steven and Kinga Johns. In certifying the status of the Johns Mustang Body as BME #4, we are having a closer look at the finishing of it after it received paint and many genuine goodies that have been collected and assembled to finish it in a period correct dress while getting race ready and safe enough to compete in selected events. Check out the Bud Moore certificate and latest pics of the meanwhile assembled race car. Click here
It is clear that this body/car has had no real race history, yet Bud Moore considers and certifies it as a legit surviving BME #4
September 15th, 2011|
More pictures unearthed of Cal Club races
Bill Maier drove this car at a Cal Club Riverside meeting with the number 22. Thanks to Bruce Ward from Riverside Int. Jim Langes research about his fathers car brought up also more proofs for the chain of custody.
This is just one of a series of pics if Cal Club races and Jim is getting closer to the core of it. Stay tuned.
Read the most unexpected story of Dick Guider and his two ex-SA notchbacks here
20th. August 2011
Bill Ockerlund drives his 1968 Shelby Mustang T/A #2 at Monterey
Craig Conley with his former Mike Folsom car and a number of others there as well.
July 20th, 2011
Sometimes it takes years or even decades for the Ponysite-network, but thanks to John Scott we received this rare pic of Forrest Straights ex-Danny Moore racer.
A pic that Forrest was looking for for a long time.
July 10th, 2011|
Ron Lanthrop was there at several T/A races from 66 to 69 and thanks to Jon Mello over at the www.Camaro.org Trans Am Forum we can have a look into his great archive, which will probably answer a lot more questions which we could think over.
Stuff enough for investigations about the original cars.
Pictures Ron Lanthrop (www.camaros.org/Jon Mello)
2011 through June 2011|
This is not just a simple RARE FIND as you know them, this will be a real
MOST UNEXPECTED RARE FIND
of more than a decade of Mustang History
One of the 1967 Shelby Trans-Am Notchbacks that got out of sight in the mid 70ies and never surfaced since. We are proud to have the last and current owner give us an interview on how this car survived and in what condition it is today.
For decades enthusiasts were puzzled about the various Titus cars and their crashes and "rebuilds" and what happened to all of them. Out of the cars number #1 to #5 a few were never found. The SAAC registry data of those cars will or might have to be rewritten once again, when the 2 cars will have to be fitted within the 67 notchback puzzle in 2011.
The car which "we" unearthed through the research of Jim Lange going back through the history records of his fathers car was a real surprise and I am proud to have been a small part of the research group in finding the key person to give us much more insight into what happened to 2 of the notchbacks that are unaccounted for in the latest, just released SAAC registry of 2011.
But this true survivor exists, we have done our utmost to verify the truth behind the story, checked the VIN out with our resources and the history records speak for themselves as a logical record, though some things may have to be reviewed, as they are based on memories of Richard Guider and his ex-mechanic. The story as it goes will be subsequently laid out with the related parties, yet we are proud to be part of the unfolding 2011 story. A or two true rare finds of more than a decade of Mustang history.
After 3 phone calls with the owner, we think this is pretty much watertight now.
April 14th, 2011|
Phil Dauphinee deserves a special mentioning on this site with his latest scale model project, but not only because of that. He is one of the sources that I check more frequently in order to remain updated on what is going on at the historic racing spots in the US and Canada.
Being a true T/A maniac and a Gurney fan this scale model is detailed to its "bones" and Phil spent a lot of his time into researching all the bits and pieces of the original car.
Check out his photo collection of more than a decade on his site and browse through all the events he covered in that period.
"To celebrate Dan Gurney's 80th birthday I completed my model of his 1969 Trans-Am Mustang. The best part of building the model was researching all I could find out about the car.
All the photos are at http://public.fotki.com/phildaupho/dan-gurney-scale-ra/1969-mustang/"
Phil Dauphinee, April 14th. 2011
April 4th,2011, finally on amazon.com|
New BOSS 302 book can be pre-ordered now.
Out in July 2001, probably from August 2011,11th on amazon, but, signed ones will be available latest at the Boss Reunion early August in Dearborn/Michigan.
I entered my pre-order for
Donald Farrs new Boss book already, so join us soon.
The Mustang Boss 302 - A
Racing legend turns into a modern Muscle car. By Donald Farr.
February 9th, 2011
Jim Kless may ring a bell or two for some.
He owned and raced 2 1966 Shelby Group 2 notchbacks (#1 and#5) back then in the heydays. We are glad to have him here and opening his personal archive for us.
See us fill in the stories step by step as my time permits, especially the history records, as I got 3 enveloppes full of stuff. Thank you, Jim.
- car #5
- car #1
January 15th, 2011
The former Ted Gildred 67 notchback will be soon in the News again as we heard through the grapevine.
Good to have some new pics of the car thanks to Frank Sheffield, who spotted the car back in 1983.
"The photographs were made in June, 1983, at Carlsbad Raceway in SouthernCalifornia. It was a San Diego Region SCCA Solo event, or time trial." says Frank.
A new research report may shed some more light (or blow fog) on the mystery around the prototype and several 67/68 SA notchbacks soon with more bits, testimonals and statements. This report will be send to related parties.
Update Dez. 2011: Coming out in Jan. 2012 acc. to latest information.
December 6th, 2010|
Returning to the action.
Carfilms.com has just released a DVD box with all the good stuff. 3 DVDs about the 67/68 T/A season, a Javelin view from 68 on and one DVD with Parnelli Jones about the 70/71 season is included.
the trailer and for that price it is worth to have on your shelf for a nice
picture courtesy carfilms.com
November 14th, 2010
Jim Lange had to go a long way in his research of the history of his 1967 Mustang notchback race car
..but he finally succeeded with help of our T/A family and finding old friends and contacts from his fathers racer history.
According to his ongoing research, the car shown as no.22 or no. 73 on the right belonged once to Ron Burns and previously to Dick Guider.
Jim is currently still engaged in talking to the first owner and getting the chain of ownership closed, documented and watertight for a complete history report.
We are glad having helped Jim to cruise through the deep water of racing history research.
Read about the initial call for help. We will roll out and update the information on that site as found by Jim.
October 13th, 2010
1967 and 1968 Group 2 Racing Mustangs are getting very popular in Europe these days.
Carlo and Mirjam Hamilton from the Netherlands are very special however. They started this project 2 years ago after a visit to our Ponysite replica section.
I am Carlo Hamilton from the Netherlands, in January 2008 I bought a '68 Mustang notchback
after seeing the PONYSITE!
We will feature it soon in our replica section with more details after publishing it in our club mag.
September 2nd, 2010|
The Frank Gardner T/A Mustang #149625 may return to the tracks one day
|Read Dan Bowdens anouncement here at the bottom of the related page|
September 1st, 2010
You never know who is a reporter of www.ponysite.de sneaking with you into an engine bay.
....until you read it here.
This is Jim Langes father at the SAAC-35in our typical ponysite-mode talking with Chuck Cantwell about SFM5022 details.
Dan Gurney and the All American
Racers team honored at Monterey|
Friday 13th. August saw the 2011/12 Boss 302 street car unveiling at 11.45 at the raceway with Dan Gurney.
More information on the Dan Gurney festivities
Mecum presented W. Wyss paintings at the Del Monte Golf Course during their auction.
The staged original Gurney cars at the Rolex Monterey Festival 2010
More pics will be added to the racing logbooks thanks to Phil Dauphinee
June 18th. 2010
Ford plans a 15million dollar racecar museum
Dan Guerney and Parnelli Jones cars planned. We wonder which cars out of which collection may end up there, do we?
Details from Thom and Jeff Canon about their 67 Shelby Notchback #18
Details from Thom and Jeff Canon about 66 Shelby Notchback #15
May 2nd, 2010|
1967 Shelby T/A Notchback from Jerry Titus available from Pioneer Slotcars
David Lord writing for a Scalextric UK magazine kept us updated on the latest development with his sneak preview of an article that will be published soon.
Next on is a plain white "paint it yourself" kit that allows you to create your own 1968 Notchback racer in your favourite racing trim.
The original in its yellow/black Terlingua Racing Team dress
...and the 1:32 Pioneer Scale Slot car. Together with the already available blue Bill Maier 68 #22 Notchback and the red Tony Marcotti 1968 #21 car they will be a great gift for your kids and yourself of course.
April 19th, 2010|
112073 for sale by Canepa Design
Watch out on ebay
Asking price 960.000 Dollar
Picture Canepa Design
April 12th, 2010|
Opening another dimension
During our research we stumbled over a lot of other 69/70 Mustang racecar. Reason enough to start up another section on this site with help from former A/S car, Touring class cars and some other that may have catched your interest in those years. We will also regroup a few that had found their way in the T/A segment during the past years.
March 26th., 2010|
The 1968 T/A Shelby # 2 returns to the tracks
A known Shelby dealer named Bill Ockerlund bought the car and had it repainted back to blue.
March 19th., 2010|
PTWA based SUNA-6-3 Repair Coating for genuine Ford engine blocks soon available?
Some of you may have followed the Ford news in February about the innovative 2011 Shelby G.T.500 alum block treated with the PTWA coating process, developed by Ford Aachen R&D centre/Germany with Honsel and Spray-Flame Industries. Actually the 2011 G.T.500 engine block is produced over here in Germany now from Honsel in Meschede.
Many overlooked in the February 2010 PR news the words about the cast iron engines that were tested. Well it helped our club to be well-known in the Ford inhouse magazine in Germany, so we got a mail from INSIDE Ford R&D that there will be more news around SUNA-6-3-repair-PTWA based-coatings of cast iron engines. Aside from Caterpillar Diesel engine applications the testing is in the final stages with this 66 Mustang engine.
This is the actual private test car.
While we don't think this coating might be necessary for
the average Joes daily driver..depending on the final pricing, serious racers
and Boss runners may keep their antennas tuned to Ponysite News for further
updates from INSIDE Ford R&D and Honsel. Honsel and Ford are engaged to
apply the techniques to volume car lines. The 1.4ZVTEC is one of the projects,
the Caterpillar project another that turned out of a Nano-mobil-R&D project
sponsored by the german BMBF with 11million Euro. The 66 Mustang engine project is
carrried out with help from a former Q-Manager at the Ford Cologne engine
factory, that produced the Mustang V6-engine for years.
Feb. 4th., 2010|
Two interesting cars on sale.
Check out the B302 Forum for discussions around them and the facts and fallacies, if there are some
|The first one|
January 29th, 2010
Ford presented two Boss 302 R
the well-known liverys of No. 15 and 16 at Daytona.
January 9th, 2010|
One of the things that drives us in maintaining this site is reconnecting previous owners with the current ones to preserve the histories of their Mustangs.
Once again a mail made my day in the first days of January 2010, when Greg Meindl reported that former Mustang-racer Hermann Schlenker found his way to Greg through the report about his Mustang racecar on Ponysite.de
The picture shows the car at a 1967 2-days canadian rallye event, here at the start on an island "St. Helenes" at the Montreal Expo. Hermann was invited by Gary back then to drive his car there. Gary Young was the owner of the car, which was sponsored by the Frontier Ford dealership. In the background are Gary Young, Hermann Schlenker and Miss Montreal Expo.
We are sure both will have a nice time in reconnecting Hermann to his former mates and memories and maybe even reunite him one day with is old car.
Read here more about the history of that car, we will add Hermanny pictures soon.